Comments on: Bits of Advice http://suburbanprepper.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/bits-of-advice/ Suburban Preparedness and Suburban Survival Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:13:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: fallout11 http://suburbanprepper.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/bits-of-advice/#comment-161 fallout11 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:21:26 +0000 http://suburbanprepper.wordpress.com/?p=61#comment-161 The danger with bartering ammunition is that: 1) Others now know you have ammo, ie. you have enough spare to barter, so you have plenty. 2) Others can use the very ammo you just traded them to 'help themselves' to whatever else you have, right over your dead body. I agree, bartering ammo is a poor strategy. Also, one other consideration: During the years after the Soviet Union's collapse, ammo in the FSU was pretty much valueless. There was little or no violence. Rather, other goods gained significantly in value (food, liquor, cigarettes, cheap electronics). 8 drops bleach per gallon of water (1 teaspoon). Twice that if turbid. 60 rads per hour. More than that is dangerous. Your mind is EMP proof. *wink* The danger with bartering ammunition is that:
1) Others now know you have ammo, ie. you have enough spare to barter, so you have plenty.
2) Others can use the very ammo you just traded them to ‘help themselves’ to whatever else you have, right over your dead body.
I agree, bartering ammo is a poor strategy.

Also, one other consideration: During the years after the Soviet Union’s collapse, ammo in the FSU was pretty much valueless. There was little or no violence. Rather, other goods gained significantly in value (food, liquor, cigarettes, cheap electronics).

8 drops bleach per gallon of water (1 teaspoon). Twice that if turbid.
60 rads per hour. More than that is dangerous.
Your mind is EMP proof. *wink*

]]> By: johnzilla http://suburbanprepper.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/bits-of-advice/#comment-143 johnzilla Mon, 12 May 2008 22:17:53 +0000 http://suburbanprepper.wordpress.com/?p=61#comment-143 Ammunition for barter is a good strategy in my opinion. You want to have on hand things that are the most valuable. What is most valuable in a grid down situation? What single thing can both protect you and feed you? Ammo. Also, when you barter away ammo, the implication is that you have so much on hand you can afford to barter it away. In a suburban situation, do you need full power rifles and ammo? No. But having 10,000 rounds of .22LR around and a couple cheap .22 rifles/pistols can't hurt. In a grid down situation, you could probably get lots more for 500 rounds of .22LR or 50 rounds of 9mm than you could for anything else you might have on hand. The store near my house is selling 525 rounds of .22LR for $14. 10,500 rounds is $280....keep half for yourself, barter the other half. What else would have more value in barter than 525 rounds of ammo? Gasoline? How much would you have to have to equal 525 rounds of ammo? Probably more than $14 worth. Ditto just about anything else except maybe a good knife or a firearm, and if you're trading a firearm, its value skyrockets if you have a good chunk of ammo to trade with it. Ammunition for barter is a good strategy in my opinion. You want to have on hand things that are the most valuable. What is most valuable in a grid down situation? What single thing can both protect you and feed you? Ammo.

Also, when you barter away ammo, the implication is that you have so much on hand you can afford to barter it away.

In a suburban situation, do you need full power rifles and ammo? No. But having 10,000 rounds of .22LR around and a couple cheap .22 rifles/pistols can’t hurt. In a grid down situation, you could probably get lots more for 500 rounds of .22LR or 50 rounds of 9mm than you could for anything else you might have on hand. The store near my house is selling 525 rounds of .22LR for $14. 10,500 rounds is $280….keep half for yourself, barter the other half.

What else would have more value in barter than 525 rounds of ammo? Gasoline? How much would you have to have to equal 525 rounds of ammo? Probably more than $14 worth. Ditto just about anything else except maybe a good knife or a firearm, and if you’re trading a firearm, its value skyrockets if you have a good chunk of ammo to trade with it.

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